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America's "Little Sister"

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
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'She Was Fighting to the Death'
Details Emerging of W. Va. Soldier's Capture and Rescue
By Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, April 3, 2003; Page A01


Pfc. Jessica Lynch, rescued Tuesday from an Iraqi hospital, fought fiercely and shot several enemy soldiers after Iraqi forces ambushed the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, firing her weapon until she ran out of ammunition, U.S. officials said yesterday.

Lynch, a 19-year-old supply clerk, continued firing at the Iraqis even after she sustained multiple gunshot wounds and watched several other soldiers in her unit die around her in fighting March 23, one official said. The ambush took place after a 507th convoy, supporting the advancing 3rd Infantry Division, took a wrong turn near the southern city of Nasiriyah.

"She was fighting to the death," the official said. "She did not want to be taken alive."

Lynch was also stabbed when Iraqi forces closed in on her position, the official said, noting that initial intelligence reports indicated that she had been stabbed to death. No official gave any indication yesterday, however, that Lynch's wounds had been life-threatening.

Several officials cautioned that the precise sequence of events is still being determined, and that further information will emerge as Lynch is debriefed. Reports thus far are based on battlefield intelligence, they say, which comes from monitored communications and from Iraqi sources in Nasiriyah whose reliability has yet to be assessed. Pentagon officials said they had heard "rumors" of Lynch's heroics but had no confirmation.

There was no immediate indication whether Lynch's fellow soldiers killed in the ambush were among 11 bodies found by Special Operations forces who rescued Lynch at Saddam Hussein Hospital in Nasiriyah. U.S. officials said that at least some of the bodies are believed to be those of U.S. servicemen. Two of the bodies were found in the hospital's morgue, and nine were found in shallow graves on the grounds outside.

Seven soldiers from the 507th are still listed as missing in action following the ambush. Five others, four men and a woman, were taken captive after the attack. Video footage of the five has been shown on Iraqi television, along with grisly pictures of at least four soldiers killed in the battle.

Lynch, of Palestine, W.Va., arrived yesterday at a U.S. military hospital in Germany. She was in "stable" condition, with broken arms and a broken leg in addition to the gunshot and stab wounds, sources said. Other sources said both legs were broken, and one arm. Victoria Clarke, a Pentagon spokeswoman, gave no specifics of Lynch's condition, telling reporters only that she is "in good spirits and being treated for injuries."

But one military officer briefed on her condition said that while Lynch was conscious and able to communicate with the U.S. commandos who rescued her, "she was pretty messed up." Last night Lynch spoke by telephone with her parents, who said she was in good spirits, but hungry and in pain.

"Talk about spunk!" said Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), whom military officials had briefed on the rescue. "She just persevered. It takes that and a tremendous faith that your country is going to come and get you."

One Army official said that it could be some time before Lynch is reunited with her family, since experience with those taken prisoner since the Vietnam War indicates that soldiers held in captivity need time to "decompress" and reflect on their ordeal with the help of medical professionals.

"It's real important to have decompression time before they get back with their families to assure them that they served their country honorably," the official said. "She'll meet with Survival, Escape, Resistance and Evasion psychologists. These are medical experts in dealing with this type of things."

At Central Command headquarters in Qatar, Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks showed a brief night-vision video clip of commandos rushing Lynch, on a stretcher, to a Black Hawk helicopter. Later, television networks showed footage of her arriving in Germany.

One intriguing account of Lynch's captivity came from an unidentified Iraqi pharmacist at Saddam Hussein Hospital who told Sky News, a British network, that he had cared for her and heard her crying about wanting to be reunited with her family.

"She said every time, about wanting to go home," said the pharmacist, who was filmed at the hospital wearing a white medical coat over a black T-shirt. "She knew that the American Army and the British were on the other side of the [Euphrates] river in Nasiriyah city. . . . She said, 'Maybe this minute the American Army [will] come and get me.' " The only injuries the pharmacist said he was aware of were to Lynch's leg, but there was no way to evaluate his statement.

Lynch's rescue at midnight local time Tuesday was a classic Special Operations raid, with U.S. commandos in Black Hawk helicopters engaging Iraqi forces on their way in and out of the medical compound, defense officials said.

Acting on information from CIA operatives, they said, a Special Operations force of Navy SEALs, Army Rangers and Air Force combat controllers touched down in blacked-out conditions. An AC-130 gunship, able to fire 1,800 rounds a minute from its 25mm cannon, circled overhead, as did a reconnaissance aircraft providing video imagery of the operation as it unfolded.

"There was shooting going in, there was some shooting going out," said one military officer briefed on the operation. "It was not intensive. There was no shooting in the building, but it was hairy, because no one knew what to expect. When they got inside, I don't think there was any resistance. It was fairly abandoned."

Meanwhile, U.S. Marines advanced in Nasiriyah to divert whatever Iraqi forces might still have been in the area.

The officer said that Special Operations forces found what looked like a "prototype" Iraqi torture chamber in the hospital's basement, with batteries and metal prods.

Briefing reporters at Central Command headquarters, Brooks said the hospital apparently was being used as a military command post. Commandos whisked Lynch to the Black Hawk helicopter that had landed inside the hospital compound, he said, while others remained behind to clear the hospital.

The announcement of the raid was delayed for more than an hour yesterday because some U.S. troops had remained on the ground longer than anticipated, Brooks said. "We wanted to preserve the safety of the forces," he said.

Correspondent Alan Sipress in Qatar and staff writer Dana Priest contributed to this report.


© 2003 The Washington Post Company
 

Ventus

Vollkommener Meister
15. März 2003
517
I dont know what I should say...
Should I laugh or should I be sad?
 

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
Ventus schrieb:
I dont know what I should say...
Should I laugh or should I be sad?

Personally, I am proud as Hell! I just mailed her family $100.

Last week when she was captured and became a POW, I did post her pictures on this website.

The comments I received were absolutely disgusting.

Thank God, Americans do value life!
 

Franziskaner

Ritter vom Schwert
4. Januar 2003
2.061
Hunble schrieb:
Last week when she was captured and became a POW, I did post her pictures on this website.

The comments I received were absolutely disgusting.

Hey, i thought this is a dangerous business and things like this happen? But sure, it's only serious when it happens to Americans. If there are 2 iraqi soldiers with a white flag killed - who cares? If american soldiers kill 7 women and children - who cares? If you find this disgusting, i can live with it. I find it disgusting, when somebody thinks he is so much more worth than other people so that other peoples live is worth nothing...

Thank God, Americans do value life!

But only if they have a american passport...speaking of passports, has your president get one lately?

Other question? Where did your soldiers find this chick? In a iraqi hospital? What did you think will your brave american soldiers do, if a iraqi soldier will fight like this girl has? You're right, they won't stop until they have killed him. Oh yes, i know. Americans do value life... :twisted:
 

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
I am sorry Sir, but I simply do not know how to reply to your hatred.
 

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
Franziskaner schrieb:
Sir, their is a huge difference between you and I. I take responsibility for my choices and actions.

When you are proved wrong (and your views about Iraq will be proved wrong), what will your reply be?

I am just a single American male willing to talk and express my views on this subject. If I say something stupid that is not supported with factual information, each and every member of this website WILL let me know my errors.

If my friends are correct, I will be the very first one to admit it. Yes, I have posted on this website when I was wrong!

When you lie, deceive and cause harm - how are you held accountable?
 

querulant

Großmeister
18. März 2003
75
Hello Mr. Hunble,

i dont think he hates you, no not at all. He is just another mentally retarded person who doesn`t accept the ultimate truth: The USA only wants to help us all. They are defending the whole world against the disgusting terrorism. We should convince him of this truth by using really powerful arguments, i think the USA knows how to do this. They do it to the iraqi people all the time, look here:


http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engmde140652003

So if he keeps not listening to the truth, just send him also one of your powerfull arguments.

Sorry, my English is not too good, I hope you dont mind, please. And I also hope that I haven't made you or anyone in the USA angry, because I am very scared by your arguments.

Yours respectfully,

Querulant
 

querulant

Großmeister
18. März 2003
75
Hunble schrieb:
Your argument was just as false, and you know it....

Why?

I also ask you why?

http://hrw.org/editorials/2003/us033103.htm

NEW YORK -- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has at last recognized the Geneva Conventions. Observing, correctly, that Iraq´s televised display of captured American soldiers violated the laws of war, Rumsfeld said that the conventions spell out the rules governing international armed conflict.

The United States is right to insist that Iraq honor the Geneva Conventions. But its position is weakened by failure to practice what it preaches in holding 641 prisoners without charges at the U.S. military facility in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.



USA, keep up with the good work!
 

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
Personally, being able to see Americans on TV as POW was fantastic. Now we know that they are still alive.

If you have watched American TV after that date, you will notice that ALL Iraq POWs are no longer shown on TV.

Even simple things like the licence plate on a truck is blanked out.

And your question was?
 

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
querulant schrieb:
The United States is right to insist that Iraq honor the Geneva Conventions. But its position is weakened by failure to practice what it preaches in holding 641 prisoners without charges at the U.S. military facility in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

Basic military law: You must be in military uniform to be granted POW status. If not, you are usually executed as a spy.

The people in Guantanamo Bay are still alive...

And your complaint is?
 

querulant

Großmeister
18. März 2003
75
sorry, it's not worth arguing with you anymore.

You say you usually get shot when you dont wear a uniform in war....
Thanks for this comment, I will keep it in mind for your next invasions...
 

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
querulant schrieb:
sorry, it's not worth arguing with you anymore.

You say you usually get shot when you dont wear a uniform in war....
Thanks for this comment, I will keep it in mind for your next invasions...

LOL, can you provide me a historical example where my statement was not true?

I love it when people change subjects when they are proven wrong!
 

querulant

Großmeister
18. März 2003
75
OK, you convinced me, I'm happy now that the USA is holding 641 prisoners without charges and is using cluster bombs against civilians, thanks for your good arguments.

You don't need to answer anymore, I am really happy for this discussion. I really really love the way usa is protecting me.
 

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
My God, if had been listening to live video from MSNBC, an Iraq woman was giving birth to a child in a fox hole.

The American Marines were doing everything possible to help her deliver that baby.

This has everyone watching it live.......
 

Praktiker

Geselle
13. März 2003
21
Hunble schrieb:
My God, if had been listening to live video from MSNBC, an Iraq woman was giving birth to a child in a fox hole.

The American Marines were doing everything possible to help her deliver that baby.

This has everyone watching it live.......

It's called propaganda ... ;) :idea:

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What do you say about this picture ?
 

querulant

Großmeister
18. März 2003
75
Thanks and good bye. You really convinced me of this good marines, helping us. Thanks a lot. REally. REALLY......


bye
 

Hunble

Geheimer Meister
26. Dezember 2002
279
querulant schrieb:
Thanks and good bye. You really convinced me of this good marines, helping us. Thanks a lot. REally. REALLY......


bye

I simply can not argue, nor will I, with your hatred.

If I told you that the sky was blue, you would tell me that it was green.

The facts are on my side, so we shall see.

Good luck my friend, I hope that hatred does not eat you alive.
 

querulant

Großmeister
18. März 2003
75
It's fantastic how you remind me of my old grandmother (she's 87). I just cant convince her that the Nazis werent that good as she thinks. Shes always talking about 0 % unemployed in the time of Hitler and shes still telling me, that the Nazis protected her from the bad jewish people.

I wont tell you to open your eyes, its not worth it. Keep on sleeping and believing the propaganda.

Besides, i dont hate you, I feel sorry for you, that you fell in the same trap as my grandmother.
 

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